Use Flash with Caution

I've been running tests on a couple strategies with auto and flash and have some recommendations for those wanting instant results... proceed with caution.

I personally have stopped using flash due to the results I'm seeing, but as an example:

  • betting a simple martingale / min bet 10 sats / 2x payout / max bet 0.0065536 (16x badluck) / auto switch high/low on loss
  • running (30) 2000 bets on auto (60,000 bets total) I have 3 bad breaks where I catch 16 reds in a row and reach my max bet to stop autobet.
  • running (10) 6000 bets on flash (60,000 bets total) I have 7 bad breaks where I catch 16 reds to stop autobet.
    comparing the 2 in this scenario we hit the rare 16 reds number a respectable 10% of the time in auto mode - while - we hit a rare 16 red streak 70% of the time in flash mode.

This is an example of a strategy I'm willing to share for discussion. I have a few other strategies I'm not willing to share, but, for me, they've each validated the need to not be tempted by the flash mode on DD.

Hope this helps young and old as they find their groove on DD.

**Verify all bets and for questions about fairness click the "Fair" button in the DD footer.

note: I believe the randomize algo for dice (serverseed+clientseed+nonce) is the reason auto yields realistic results vs flash results. I haven't dived too far into this, but my hunch is the quickness of flash compromises the randomness provided by the nonce over time (auto & manual).

Don't Trust. Verify

xbttrader said:

I've been running tests on a couple strategies with auto and flash and have some recommendations for those wanting instant results... proceed with caution.

I personally have stopped using flash due to the results I'm seeing, but as an example:

  • betting a simple martingale / min bet 10 sats / 2x payout / max bet 0.0065536 (16x badluck) / auto switch high/low on loss
  • running (30) 2000 bets on auto (60,000 bets total) I have 3 bad breaks where I catch 16 reds in a row and reach my max bet to stop autobet.
  • running (10) 6000 bets on flash (60,000 bets total) I have 7 bad breaks where I catch 16 reds to stop autobet.
    comparing the 2 in this scenario we hit the rare 16 reds number a respectable 10% of the time in auto mode - while - we hit a rare 16 red streak 70% of the time in flash mode.

This is an example of a strategy I'm willing to share for discussion. I have a few other strategies I'm not willing to share, but, for me, they've each validated the need to not be tempted by the flash mode on DD.

Hope this helps young and old as they find their groove on DD.

**Verify all bets and for questions about fairness click the "Fair" button in the DD footer.

note: I believe the randomize algo for dice (serverseed+clientseed+nonce) is the reason auto yields realistic results vs flash results. I haven't dived too far into this, but my hunch is the quickness of flash compromises the randomness provided by the nonce over time (auto & manual).

Don't Trust. Verify

im trying flash also but i really cant get the right settings for it mostly bust. but a lit says its ok if you already get the right setting and calculations.

xbttrader said:

I've been running tests on a couple strategies with auto and flash and have some recommendations for those wanting instant results... proceed with caution.

I personally have stopped using flash due to the results I'm seeing, but as an example:

  • betting a simple martingale / min bet 10 sats / 2x payout / max bet 0.0065536 (16x badluck) / auto switch high/low on loss
  • running (30) 2000 bets on auto (60,000 bets total) I have 3 bad breaks where I catch 16 reds in a row and reach my max bet to stop autobet.
  • running (10) 6000 bets on flash (60,000 bets total) I have 7 bad breaks where I catch 16 reds to stop autobet.
    comparing the 2 in this scenario we hit the rare 16 reds number a respectable 10% of the time in auto mode - while - we hit a rare 16 red streak 70% of the time in flash mode.

This is an example of a strategy I'm willing to share for discussion. I have a few other strategies I'm not willing to share, but, for me, they've each validated the need to not be tempted by the flash mode on DD.

Hope this helps young and old as they find their groove on DD.

**Verify all bets and for questions about fairness click the "Fair" button in the DD footer.

note: I believe the randomize algo for dice (serverseed+clientseed+nonce) is the reason auto yields realistic results vs flash results. I haven't dived too far into this, but my hunch is the quickness of flash compromises the randomness provided by the nonce over time (auto & manual).

Don't Trust. Verify

xtrader: You don't mention your chance %. Yes the difference in bust % seems way off in your small sample size, but what is your chance %?

BullseyeWins said:

xtrader: You don't mention your chance %. Yes the difference in bust % seems way off in your small sample size, but what is your chance %?

I was running 50% chance then I think.

xbttrader said:

I was running 50% chance then I think.

if so, then that many 16 red streaks seems really high! i want to test flash bet, but there is no way to stop on win AFTER maximum # of bets is reached, so it can easily stop in the middle of a red streak.

16 is high, but I've personally seen 2 busts on a 19 red streak 😣 running in auto mode. I don't trust flash enough to wager that much.

A number of factors can lead to that much bad luck I've found through my testing. 1 is switching from high to low bets on losses or every other. By doing that you multiply the opportunities to lose long red streaks. For example, if I'm not auto switching high/low I only have a slim chance to roll all lows and bust. If i'm also switching high/low I could also bust if I hit a bunch of alternating rolls that form a string of reds because my auto switch causes it.

I also play around with randomizing seeds every so often. Disclaimer: all these fool around with betting strategies. While I like finding nuances to my betting strategies I also believe no strategy ever works in long run. Straight manual betting flips, while boring, are safeist.

xbttrader said:

16 is high, but I've personally seen 2 busts on a 19 red streak 😣 running in auto mode. I don't trust flash enough to wager that much.

A number of factors can lead to that much bad luck I've found through my testing. 1 is switching from high to low bets on losses or every other. By doing that you multiply the opportunities to lose long red streaks. For example, if I'm not auto switching high/low I only have a slim chance to roll all lows and bust. If i'm also switching high/low I could also bust if I hit a bunch of alternating rolls that form a string of reds because my auto switch causes it.

I also play around with randomizing seeds every so often. Disclaimer: all these fool around with betting strategies. While I like finding nuances to my betting strategies I also believe no strategy ever works in long run. Straight manual betting flips, while boring, are safeist.

I agree with what you said about not randomizing or switching high/low because i also belive it hurts you more on lon red streaks. but on the other hand, i try to keep my feelings out of it :)

There's pretty much no difference in the results you'd get by playing 60 k auto rolls or 60k flash bets :) . Luck is the only factors that will matter in these situations , you might get 5 16 red streaks playing auto rolls and 0 16 red streaks playing flash and vice-versa.

In terms of verifying your bets, we provide downloaded data on all flash bets -- you can also go into each game and scroll through on each game your bets to get the bet id numbers -- nothing is sacrificed as you are suggesting, every outcome is generated in line with the verification system.

What you say is fair enough in terms of being skeptical and too verify / see for yourself, but i want to assure you that there is no cut corners and everything is produced as per provably fair as if it was manual or auto